*but its okay to exclude trans women if they are truscum*
*the friend zone is misogynistic, but of course the sexual entitlement that female SJWs have is fine, even when they refer to people rebuffing their sexual advances or not finding them fuckable as “oppression” or “phobia”*
And the award for Least Self-Awareness Goes To…
Hey sweetheart, don’t get your boxers in a bunch. Learn to take a joke and maybe you won’t feel so angry all the time, I mean LOL lighten up, we’re just having a little fun, why do you have to make everything into such a “SERIOUS ISSUE” Mr. grumpy face??
It’s okay, I mean, it’s not mens fault they’re not funny and can’t take a joke, right?
No, it’s not their fault, they are really only born and socialized to focus on things like lifting heavy objects and reaching tall shelves. We can’t blame them for not getting our jokes, humor just isn’t a strong characteristic for men, biologically speaking.
And the Lack of Self Awareness Express speeds on, right on schedule and with a few more passengers onboard
Q:Genderpunkrock is a literal joke that stopped being funny as soon as it started.
they really are a few bagels short of a breakfast
There is literally no way you can be right but please tell a trans woman what is and isn’t transmisogynistic
Since chavezery has a non-tumblr domain I can’t directly reblog their post, so I’m just going to jump in here.
We use our URLs as our names on Tumblr, right? I mean, everyone knows who I was talking about when I said ‘chavezery’, right?
And ‘[name] is a joke’ is a valid construction (if an insulting one) in English, right?
And in the OP, the person who answered the ask replied with ‘they’, right?
Okay, so. Walk with me here.
If the asker only said ‘[Person] is a literal joke’ and the other person said ‘they really are [ableist insult]’, nobody would have thought to consider the ask to be about the blog itself. It just wouldn’t happen. That’s not how identities work on Tumblr, and it’s not how we parse language.
So why are there people rushing to defend an anonymous person who has said ‘[person] is a literal joke that stopped being funny as soon as [subj. pronoun] started’?
And, if you’re going to talk about English and be a hardliner grammarian, the ask uses the word literal. The person in question isn’t a joke, as in, they’re ridiculous. They are the physical embodiment of a humourous statement. So even if the sentence was meant to read ‘[person]’ is a literal joke that stopped being funny as soon as it [the joke] started’, the first half of the sentence already equates the joke to the person. They’re inseparable as soon as you get to the second half.
This kind of dehumanization appears so often in our insults that we don’t even really register it, but it exists. In this case it taps into the intentional degendering that happens to trans women on a continuous basis, and therefore also has the weight of a culture behind it.
This is all speculation, of course, because the anon is anonymous, that’s kind of the point. They didn’t want their words to have a name to them because that name, or those words, might carry with it a connotation that could come back to bite them. All we have are their words.
So why are we being charitable to a person who sent an entire ask just to insult a completely different person than the person the ask was sent to?
Why is that even a consideration?
The barest possible minimum, most charitable interpretation of the events is that the anon sent an unfortunately worded ask, one that was still insulting, that poppypicklesticks piled on to, while also degendering the subject of the ask. But both these people deliberately said harmful things to @genderpunkrock. And even if the degendering is 100% unintentional, it still occurred. The effect of the words on the page is that a trans woman was referred to as, at best, someone of indeterminate or unknown gender, if not outright as an object.
So to recap, there are people asking a trans woman who has just been insulted twice, by two separate people, deliberately and wilfully, and who has been degendered deliberately at least once, to not consider the whole thing an act of violent transmisogyny.
And the people who are doing the insulting, the people who are doing the degendering, those people get nothing about what they were doing.
Also: Who the actual fuck are you, chavezery? You’re nothing but an empty shirt with a fedora and a domain name. What stake do you have in this highly personal issue that you just had to chime in on? And what made you feel so very entitled to argue with someone over how they should feel about getting repeatedly insulted?
Why am I about to respond to this
Okay, I don’t know why I decided to say the “it” was directed toward the blog, that was idiotic of me (and I did it on more than one occasion, that was my mistake). Anon was more than likely referring to the word “joke,” rather than the blog. My bad.
I’m pretty sure that the anon in question did not mean that GPR is a “physical embodiment of a humourous statement,” because that doesn’t make much sense at all, even if we’re bringing hardcore grammar usage into question.
To claim that the anon attempted to dehumanize GPR by saying that is a loaded statement. It may have been an insult, but not every insult is meant to be dehumanizing. Some are meant to make someone rethink their actions or to rethink their position on certain topics.
In order to fully understand the grammar argument, please read the following:
Let’s say everyone, for some reason, knows of a website named yoloswag.net or something equally arbitrary. There’s only one admin of the website, they don’t allow submissions, and they post pictures of cats with stupid captions or something equally arbitrary. The admin’s name on the website is Broseph or something equally arbitrary.
If someone were to say “Yoloswag is a joke that stopped being funny as soon as it started,” would that refer to the word “joke,” the website, or to Broseph?
Well, it would also depend on if Broseph just uses Yoloswag as their domain or if they also use it as an alias. As far as I can see, GPR prefers to be referred to as “Cemi.” (Referring to her as GPR because I have never talked to her personally.)
However, this is a big problem in English. There’s too much room for each consideration. There’s no central authority to regulate the English language.
I will take your argument about degendering, but if it was unintentional, she shouldn’t be taking it so personally. Sometimes, it just happens. And, even though they were pretty blatantly insulting her, she tried to turn it into an issue of transmisogyny, which was more than likely not the case (it could have been referring to the way she responds to honest criticism, ie. “lol i didn’t read that,” “i don’t care about what cis people have to say,” etc.). By the way, how is saying she’s “a few bagels short of a breakfast” an ableist insult? It’s not directly related to her gender or her sexuality, but rather the way she acts.
Oh, and I’m oh-so-sorry for commenting on a public post on a public blog that was reblogged by GPR to gain further publicity and garner hate for poppypicklesticks! Oh dear Lord, I’ve seen the error of my ways! It’s absolutely my fault for getting involved with something so personal that she felt the need to further publicize it, right? No, but really though, I’m very sorry for trying to help her see how else it could be interpreted. Shame on me for trying to help her see that there was more than one way to interpret words on a webpage on a screen from a server from an unnamed user. And especially shame on me for trying to show her that there are better ways to deal with criticism, even if it’s in the form of an insult! Man, I’ve sinned so much today. I never even realized that 2 insults constitutes saying someone was repeatedly insulted! I’ve got a long way to go.
PS. I thought you could reblog if you went directly to my post? Did you try to go directly to my last post and reblog?
PSS. I’m pretty sure, at this point, that GenderPunkRock is a troll or is completely cisphobic. Tbh, it wasn’t really worth the time to write out this entire response, but it’s a little late to change that now. Hopefully you’ll at least see why I thought it was worth my time to help her, even if it all fell on deaf ears.
Tumblr doesn’t love minorities, they love their kind of minority.
Tumblr doesn’t love women, they love their kind of women.
Tumblr doesn’t love LGBTQ they love their kind of LGBTQ.
The minute you deviate from the way they want you to think, feel, and act, you’re as worthless to them as all the “bigots” they claim to hate. Tumblr is not an accepting place.
Okay but why is no one talking about the thanks in VesselOh, and we also want to thank all the haters, discriminators, and perpetrators. I'm just kidding. That would be funny though, if we were totally serious about that. But in all seriousness, we want to thank pushups for making our arms huge.
Q:what exactly is 4chan
"im making fun of you for being an asshole, not for being [oppressed group]!"
you seriously think i didnt use that same excuse back when i was racist transmisogynist homophobic conservative trash
trust me, it’s nothing new and you’re perpetuating oppression
i didn’t know you were a troll